1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,800 It is my pleasure to introduce tonight all the way from New Hampshire with us on the 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,800 line is Betty Hill. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,800 Good evening Betty. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,800 Good evening. 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,600 I want to thank you first of all for being on the program. 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Thank you. 7 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,520 I understand that you have published a book called A Common Sense Approach to UFOs. 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Yes. 9 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,920 Tell me a little bit about what that book does or what it tells people. 10 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,760 Well, let me begin in the beginning sort of. 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:32,880 When our experience first became known, we became a focal point of people reporting UFO 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,380 sightings to us. 13 00:00:34,380 --> 00:00:35,380 Right. 14 00:00:35,380 --> 00:00:41,120 So that I started collecting all kinds of information here in New Hampshire about UFO 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,120 sightings. 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:49,200 And then in that 1975 after the movie, I began getting calls, started getting calls from 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,720 people who were calling me and saying, I think I was abducted but I don't know. 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:02,640 So I started working with these people to find out if they were abducted or not. 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,680 And if they were not, what was the source of their beliefs. 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:15,640 And of course, as a result of this, I had to develop criteria to separate the real abductions 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,720 from the psychological ones. 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,200 And so my book just sort of grew on all this research. 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,240 The Alps has written about me, so I thought it was time I did it. 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,840 September 19, 1961. 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,520 We left Montreal, Canada late afternoon and we were driving down to the White Mountains 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,520 of New Hampshire. 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,080 And we suddenly saw what we thought was a new star in the sky. 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,920 When we began to move, we assumed it was a satellite. 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,120 And then it turned and came and it started coming in towards us. 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,720 And it followed us for several miles. 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,680 In an area called Indian Head, it left the top of the mountain, came out over the highway 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,600 and stopped in mid-air directly in front of us. 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,960 This is when Bonnie got out of the car with a binoculars in an attempt to try to identify 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,680 this craft. 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,800 And as he looked up, he could see a group of men standing in the windows, looking down 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,800 at him. 37 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,560 And the craft began to descend. 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,960 And he had the feeling they were trying to grab him, to capture him. 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,720 So we ran back to the car and we went speeding down the highway. 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,280 The continued alarm. 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,720 We kept looking for the craft. 42 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,240 Again, we didn't see it. 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:42,840 And about 30 miles further south, Bonnie turned out the main highway onto a secondary road. 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,280 And then we found ourselves on a dirt road. 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:52,880 And the men who had been on the craft were standing on a curve in the road in front of 46 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,880 us. 47 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,240 And then the car motor stalled. 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:02,360 They came up and two groups took us out of the car to a path in the woods to where the 49 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,000 craft was on the ground. 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,800 They just told us, they kept saying, don't be afraid. 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,320 We're not going to harm you. 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,760 We just want to do some simple tests. 53 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,960 The people, if you one walked across the room and you only saw his back, you would never 54 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,960 turn around and look. 55 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,920 Those were the very, very beginning of the medical hypnosis by Dr. Simon. 56 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:29,040 No, they did not look like that. 57 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Their people, their facial features are a little different from ours. 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Their eyes are larger, nose smaller. 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,680 No lips. 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,160 No protruding part of the ear and no hair. 61 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,760 They did some simple tests. 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,400 And they took us into separate rooms. 63 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:58,400 And there was, well, for purposes of identification, there was one who seemed to be in charge and 64 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,240 one who spoke English. 65 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,400 So we called him the leader. 66 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,920 And then there was a second man who did the testing. 67 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,480 So we called him the examiner. 68 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,440 And then there were nine others that stayed out in the corridor. 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,720 So we called them the crew members. 70 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,720 So they did some simple testing. 71 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,200 And when my exam was over with, the examiner went into Barney's room. 72 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:28,000 And by this time, I completely lost all fear. 73 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,880 I was beginning to enjoy myself. 74 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,640 I was walking around the room and I'm talking with him. 75 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,920 I said I needed something to take home to prove this had happened. 76 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,320 He gave me a book, which I looked at briefly. 77 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,800 But then, of course, when I'm leaving the craft, they decided to take the book away from me. 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,360 And he showed me a style map of where they were from. 79 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,760 And he asked me questions about, like, how long did we live? 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,640 What was the length of our lives? 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,040 What was our nourishment? 82 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,840 What did we eat? 83 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:05,400 Things like that. 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,400 And then Barney's exam was completed. 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:15,960 With him, his exam was very similar to mine, except with me, they were interested in my 86 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,840 nervous system. 87 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:21,240 And they tried to do what they call a pregnancy test. 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,360 But with Barney, they were interested in his bone structure. 89 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:32,640 They attempted to insert a needle-like instrument in my navel. 90 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:40,000 And Dr. Simon gave me a post-tigmatic suggestion that if I wanted to, I could sketch this style 91 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,440 map, but don't think about it. 92 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,720 Just sit down and do it. 93 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,040 So one day I did. 94 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:54,880 And then later we discovered I had actually sketched a real pattern of stars, which can 95 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,240 be seen only south of Mexico City. 96 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,440 But wasn't anything I looked at the sky and saw. 97 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,680 And they explained the map to me. 98 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,080 There were lines on it. 99 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,400 Heavy lines were where they went all the time. 100 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,560 And the broken lines were expeditions. 101 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:18,720 And in doing the research of this, the heavy lines all go to stars systems that we've 102 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,160 believed to be five to 11 billion years old. 103 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,520 And the broken lines all go to stars that are younger than that. 104 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:37,400 But also on the map, I had two stars which our astronomers did not find until 1969 or 105 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,400 70. 106 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Right? 107 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,680 And not only that, this area of the sky has a large number of stars. 108 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:52,400 But I had all the stars that we believed to be possible, have the characteristics to be 109 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,200 possible to have planets and maybe life. 110 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,640 I had just those and none of us.